Author Topic: Everyone has a story, how did you found myrulet.com, reviews (Read 3972 times)

vogy3 · « **Reply #50 on:** December 07, 2009, 12:45:20 AM »

@drwho,

any serious literaly suggestions. for example: what did you read?
I really apreciate your efforts to react on me

b.r.
vogy

drwho · « **Reply #51 on:** December 07, 2009, 02:05:59 AM »

Some suggestions for reading:

'The theory of gambling and statistical logic' by Epstein
'Finding the edge' by Vancura,Cornelius,Eadington
'Fooled by randomness' by Taleb

That should keep you busy for a few days

And you'll have learned a lot

Fatgambler · « **Reply #52 on:** December 07, 2009, 03:47:46 AM »

I would read this first. Secrets Of Winning Roulette, 2nd Edition Make sure you get 2nd edition

But I also recommend http://www.gamblersbook.com/product.php?productid=17203&cat=1149&page=1

http://www.gamblersbook.com a great site that delivers world wide.

drwho · « **Reply #53 on:** December 07, 2009, 05:17:07 AM »

Personally I wouldn't suggest reading any book about roulette first.

You first need a solid understanding of the mathematics of gambling in general so you are able to separate the fact from the fiction.

Too many individuals look at specific games first without a thorough grasp of the concepts behind them.

If you don't understand the mathematics of gambling you can spend hours believing much of the drivel that's out there.

But, hey, its up to you if you want to take short cuts. But you'll live and learn.

vogy3 · « **Reply #54 on:** December 07, 2009, 05:44:13 PM »

@drwho and @ fatgambler,

thank you both guys for taking care of me, I really appreciate!!

@drwho,

I think I didn´t pronounced myselve clear enough. I wrote in my 1st posting that I´ve already find out that nothing can work with classical systems on the long term. you only can stay in plus if you hit and run away, after thorougly observation. as I wrote like "guerilla war".
the books you´ve mentioned are the theoretical confirmationa of the practice I´ve been throuh.
After 5 years from the beginning of my gambling carreer, I started to read books about how it cannot work, me idiot

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I read Pierre Basieux, Claus Koken etc.
So why "put salt in the open wounds" I´m solidly aware about, "what is not going". I´m more interested in what can go. Anyhow thanks!

@fatgambler,

I´ve ordered your recommendation.
Allow me an info from you in your status as moderator.
I´ve send 2 pm to securityman, the day before yesterday. There was no reaction.
Perhaps I did something wrong. I donnot find a confirmation that my pm were sended. Where do I find the outbox on the site?
If I click the button messages, I only find my inbox. Please help me to get clever on that subject.

Thanks in advance

Vogy

securityman · « **Reply #55 on:** December 07, 2009, 09:04:36 PM »

Hi vogy3 and welcome

its good that youve seen your wrongs and willing to correct them

this forum is dedicated to Advatage Play,,so looks like you landed in the right place

please look at foresters VB2 method,,its free and if you care to subscribe youll get unlimited support and enjoy discussing the VB2 method at great lenghs with all mebers at the section,,oh and dont forget forester himself will give also all the help you need and normally live (time permitting) on msn

if you where to buy a device all support sections and private sections on the forum including VB2 section become automatically free to you and also unlimted support

ok i hope ive helped you and i also pmd you

ok good luck and enjoy your time here

regards Securiyman

forester · « **Reply #56 on:** March 29, 2010, 12:54:07 AM »

vogy did you finally bough it?

I was going through old posts. .....
interesting interesting

Burningsides · « **Reply #57 on:** November 27, 2010, 06:10:01 AM »

Simply put,
I became a roulette dealer around 10 months ago,
In July I went to search online for a used modern cammegh or Huxley saturn wheel to practice DS.
At that time I saw the thread from GW site which SH had put for sale of roulette wheels.
Well I correspond with him and he promised to get whatever wheels I wanted.
Well to cut story short, after a long wait for 4 months, no modern cammegh, no Huxley saturn, instead I was offered an old cammegh with metal track and 16 diamonds which I refused.

Well, from GW, I saw Rcs, and the reviews
then the people like jafco, MH and forrester. I began my search on them.

To be honest, when I saw jafco and MH videos. I was not impressed as the ball virtually did not bounce. That will never happen on the modern cammegh and Huxley saturn with the ivorine ball that i used daily. No wonder It is so dead accurate

As for SH, his demo with the Huxley wheel shows that the ball does actually bounce a bit like what you see in the casino.

As for myrulet.com
Due to the bad reviews by SH on the Rcs like
unrealistic zapping, cheap material costs of $20, simple clocking machine etc...I decided to take do a search.

Well at least one thing i'm sure is that the bounce that I saw from those videos are quite realistic.

Right now i'm still exploring whether SH is lying, but seems to find out more about the feud between you guys.

Anyway, my main concern is to be a player. DS works for me sometimes but not all the time. even if i get some one to play at my table while i try DS, i do not feel secure nor too confident.

As for VB, it is new to me.
I believe modern wheels today are very difficult for VBers due to the bounce, they might have to buy maybe 10 numbers or more to cover the bounce zone.

Well, as for system, I had GW system (free from the net by some disgruntled GW owner), and some other systems, erm...my personal opinion is that they don't work!

I believe there are only 3 ways to beat roulette.
1) The dealer who master DS collaborate with you
2) You found a biases wheel
3) some device that can effectively calculate the drop zone

And that is why i'm here.
but like i had said, im still exploring....

forester · « **Reply #58 on:** November 27, 2010, 11:38:11 AM »

Thanks for the nice post, I really appreciate it.
Keep going with your research

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“Due to the bad reviews by SH on the Rcs like
unrealistic zapping, cheap material costs of $20, simple clocking machine etc...I decided to take do a search.”

It is lack of understanding. How much will cost for someone to develop custom hardware and to manufacture it in small quantity? (Circuit design, printed circuit board design, sourcing and purchasing components, assembling). That would be the cost. On top of that we can say software development is same with difference that for mobile phones slow Java programming is used, while for FF software needs to be developed especially according to hardware used, which is also specific programming but it results in the best and the most accurate timing application. Definitely FF will cost more per unit then Stefano mobile phone which can be bought for $30.
Only recently Stefano had to admit that RSR is actually his site, earlier he pretending to be someone else, giving the best reviews only to himself. Until the FF was tested by casinos consultant at RSR site the FF was reviewed as a scam.
RSR is a smart scamming site, from someone who likes reviewing others but in same time cries when people review his product.

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“As for VB, it is new to me.
I believe modern wheels today are very difficult for VBers due to the bounce, they might have to buy maybe 10 numbers or more to cover the bounce zone.”

I agree, even with roulette computer is hard. Surely someone may argue it might be the FF’s problem, but according to member’s survey here, nobody found any better RC then FF. I sleep well knowing that rest is only dishonest marketing strategy with objective to convince people to buy.

gigino · « **Reply #59 on:** March 05, 2011, 02:53:07 AM »

I have always been interested to the gambling and the electronic technology applied to them.I had known that in the years '70 if I don't remember badly there had been a technician that had built a computer for blackjack and then a RC.With these devices hidden on he succeeded in playing with advantage to the casino.

This way, after years of study with computer simulations to find a mathematical system to beat the roulette (my conclusion is that they don't exist of it), I have decided to talk to one friend of mine engineer of the telecommunications to ask him if an electronic device could be built that allowed me to play with advantage to the roulette.

I was about to send him a mail when I have decided to see if in internet something existed of already realized.This way I have happened in the site of SH. I have read all of his beautiful words on his RC and the critiques that he has done on the products of his "adversaries".This way I am said:now I go to see what the other products.

And so I have gone to see FF. (the idiots to the times serve to something)

Toxic · « **Reply #60 on:** March 05, 2011, 03:39:53 AM »

I use to be like Mr. J .......... many many moons ago.(not proud to say so) Then I saw the light from guys like Caleb, Davey Jones etc.

I found my way to Forester's site, Miro helped me with VB2 and FFV and I have never looked back. Thanks guys.

Toxic

forester · « **Reply #61 on:** March 05, 2011, 10:20:22 AM »

Thanks guys.

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I was about to send him a mail when I have decided to see if in internet something existed of already realized.This way I have happened in the site of SH. I have read all of his beautiful words on his RC and the critiques that he has done on the products of his "adversaries".This way I am said:now I go to see what the other products.

Did you know that at RSR Stefano was describing the FF as a scam? I laughed at him and told him it doesn’t work since people read it come to myrulet read what I write and find the truth. He then for about one year completely removed the review trying to prevent people for knowing about myrulet site.

When that didn’t works he created page roulette wars and placed back negative reviews at RSR. It was like that all the time until Barnett (casino consultant ) bought the FF’s and made a public report about FF roulette computers.

MrMagnum99 · « **Reply #62 on:** March 05, 2011, 07:37:49 PM »

Hey everyone. This is my first post.

I am a web developer and a stone-cold researcher. Roulette has been a project of mine for the past year, and trust me guys. I learned alot.

Throughout my research, I found this site and Forester's words and the others that are affiliated to hold the most credibility thus far.

Forester, I would like to purchase your FFZ computer. I will use it to further my thirst for knowledge and further my journey to roulette truth.

Plus I am still working on those questions for you and I will be in contact as I stated earlier.

Ricky · « **Reply #63 on:** March 24, 2011, 09:20:40 PM »

hey all this is my first post, ive been reading through all the posts here now for a few days, and its all been an interesting read but anyways i found myrulet by googling up on GW system,

I was very very close too purchasing stefano's 2500usd system, i was actually on the paypal page trying too purchase it but paypal wouldnt let me buy it without first confirming my identity... guess i caught a lucky break!
And its hear on this forum i realised just how stupid i was too think it was legit.
Its really hard too find anything negative about his genuinewinner.com on the web, It makes me sick that someone can be soo much of a pig too steal peoples money like that!.... anyways i am very grateful i came across you guys and this forum and want too thank you for showing me the scam artist lowlife he is before i became one of his victims!

forester · « **Reply #64 on:** March 25, 2011, 11:35:00 AM »

Welcome!

It looks convincing isn’t it?

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It’s really hard to find anything negative about his genuinewinner.com

; if you do Google search you get first 20 pages he created,

When I search, I type

Stefano roulette scam

And get the page

http://www.zyworld.com/Bago/Stefano_Hourmouzis_Scam.htm

but the site is not listed if I search genuine winner roulette scam

casper112 · « **Reply #65 on:** July 28, 2011, 01:15:19 PM »

Yeah losting big amount on casino via martingale. $:-\$

Shit trick of internet....

D1 · « **Reply #66 on:** July 30, 2011, 04:50:28 AM »

Hi guys

after playing system after system and inventing a few along the way myself with no success I thinks its time for me to try a different approach.

so AP VB and RC I want to give them all a try,

any hints suggestions or good reading material I can find would be great if someone can point me in the right direction,

Tahnks,

D1.

viper · « **Reply #67 on:** July 30, 2011, 05:35:11 AM »

Read all the Topics in here and u will learn a lot.

m0fo1987 · « **Reply #68 on:** January 17, 2012, 07:19:44 AM »

Well Hello first of im new:)
I don't own any roulette computer, a while ago about 5 years we were developing roulette machines when we stopped working with roulettes, one roulette was left in the office and about two years after that we started to developing are own app that would define where the ball will fall. But then our investor cutted the fundings and the project stopped.

Then few years later i decided to look up the net to see what was developing in that way.
I read about stefano system when we started developing roulette computer app for phone.

I tought it had some potential but when i read about him last days i see it's a scam, the only place i found that seems to be genuine is this. So here i am hoping for some good community and some good roulette computer. As i never played roulette in my life in Casino i see from people that before i can win with or without computer i have to go and lose some money and learn to play

Well will share my experiences with you.

Regards m0fo

forester · « **Reply #69 on:** January 17, 2012, 10:25:59 AM »

Welcome!
Regarding roulette computers a new one is going to be out soon the Acrobat.

FF-Acrobat is software that is in development for the new generation of FF roulette computers.

http://myrulet.com/roulette-computers/ff-acrobat.html

It’s not only that it develops the ball deceleration curve but whole 3 dimensional area used for predicting.
It also keeps previous features of predicting any time and multiple times during the same spin.
All that in size less than a half of casino chip.