Everyone has a story, how did you found myrulet.com, reviews

[Fatgambler]

I thought that everyone should post their story how they found myrulet.com because it is not the first site that comes up when you google roulette computer.

Anyway here is mine.

In the year of 2006 i saw an episode of "Breaking vegas" there it was to guys that developed a roulette computer, this was moment i ever heard that it existed.

Two years later i search google "roulette computer" and i found SH roulettecomputers.com. After had read "200% money back guarantee", "Take 1000000$ challenge", "win at roulette guaranteed" after ten minutes of reading that crap i made the decision that is was scam.
You can say that SH did an own goal.

On we go to MH according to me his a better scammer then SH but, i got suspicious when he wrote that he lives in a mansion, because usually if you have allot of money you don't tell anyone. But i was very close to buy his comp. Because at that time i believed that it was the best roulette comp on the market. Until one day his predictroulette.com did not work so i went on the site roulettecomputerreviews.com (which i later found out that it belonged to MH) there i saw myrulet.com and i thought lets give it a shot. And again the scammer (in this case was MH) scored an own goal.

When i went on myrulet.com just by looking at the site and the forum, i know it was not a scam beacuse Forester did not trying to convince the users of myrulet forum to buy ff. Only bad thing was that he lived in Au which SH also do. Another thing was that Forester does not give a flying fuck if he sell 11 or 9 FF devices.
Which scammer should run a forum and create 5 active users write topic that are very long? Consider the work load vs the profit of selling devices.
Well after 3 months of reading (learning the basics of advantage play) i bought ff and i don't regreat it at all.

One thing saved me alot of money: I ALWAYS DO A RESEARCH BEFORE YOU BUY ANYTHING. IT DOES NOT MATTER IF IT IS A TV OR A ROULETTE COMP.

Over 'n out.

[forester]

That's lovely subject.
It can be used for marketing  .

I think Stefano and Mark created wrong picture about computerized roulette prediction.
It sounds as buy roulette computer and it is easy to make money from casino.
It is very wrong.

Stefano is "Big Fat Greek" who only made significant money by selling roulette computers and his Genuine Winner system. I think he made much more money then Mark because he have created full network of web pages including roulette systems review where he was pretending to be someone else, effectively discrediting the others, especially Mark Howe.

Researcher should stop creating picture of seeing himself wining big money and start questioning.
If any legal system is so good why would someone need to sell it? Especially to only a handful of people as it is in usual advertised. What is the point of sale? If someone has such system he definitely wouldn't be wasting his time on internet looking for "a handful of people" to sell it to.


Additional nonsense is when someone is so serious with his selling that buyer must provide his details, certificated passport copy right.
Which serious player would accept it? Imagine Tosha from Ritz team wants to buy roulette computer and seller insists on his details. Guy is turning hundreds of thousands of dollars and he should give his details to someone who runs a web page.

For example Stefano asks buyers to sign contract where they will not talk about his computer.
It sounds interesting and very important, but really what it is.

He talks about computer, advertise it big, publishes "peoples reviews" to convince people to buy. However for some reason he asks people not to talk about it. Does it make sense? Of course it doesn't. The real reason for that is that buyers have no right to complain when they find out that computer is useless.
Such contract may be understandable if he sells it in between group of people that nobody knows and wants to keep it as a secret, far away from casino eyes and general public. But then again if computer is effective users wouldn't need any contract because it is natural that they would like to keep it as a secret.

[Fatgambler]

I actually thought that more people should post their story here, then just me.

[forester]

People are lazy, like to read and they don't like to write.
If they write they prefer to write emails.

[grintoothy]

Actually, I found myrulet.com after some extensive research. Almost fell for mark howe though, as his webpage was extremely convincing. However, the way he conducts himself in the forums is a dead giveaway that he is a psychopath

[PJ]

Speaking of stories.. what's happened to Mike Minerox and Kelly.. maybe they are all in their casino car park banging their heads on the bonnet of their cars trying to get that thing out of their ear.. or maybe they've teamed up and headed for the Ritz???

[Toothpaste]

I don't exactly remember how I found this forum, but it was mere accident. When I opened link I thought, oh no, another forum, but i decided to give it a shot, despite so many scam topics. main reason is that i noticed there are croatian people on forum, and being croatian myself, i thought its nice to see balkan school rules this forum (Forester will know what i mean by that ).
this is cool forum, and people here seem quite experienced and honest (honesty and kindness i respect most).

Even tho i use completely different approach to roulette, i am still interested in this way of thinking too. And I don't have much input to give yet, since i want to finish studying other methods completely before testing this, I still hope we can be friends

P.S. : I saw Kelly back, posting on VLS recently.

Cheers, TP

[forester]

Hear and then I read other forums.
Most what i do is to look what Kelly is writing 

Where are yu from TP?

[CLON]

"BALKAN SCHOOL RULES THIS FORUM"

[Toothpaste]

I'm from Koprivnica, but I go to uni in Zagreb.
You probably know where that is.

Where you from originally, Forester? Zagorje?

Hi Clon, another Croat, right?

Cheers, TP

[forester]

Only 5 from cro that I know.

I am from SB and spent few years in ZG studding telecommunications.

All word should know where the Koprivnica is.

Avery supermarket here sells VEGETA.
So guys if you want good tasty food all it needs is a table spoon of "vegeta"
It is perfect for Aussie barbeque.
You'll be surprised with taste.

[CLON]

i am from RIJEKA

POZDRAV SVIMA KOLIKO VAS IMA

[Advantage.Player]

I second the Vegeta - its good stuff!

As for me, Ive been on the VLS forum aswell as GG and Roulette Forum for quite some time now but recently I've lost all hope on "Systems". With my background in maths I should have known (Well I knew but didnt accept!) that no matter how intricate the betting sellection, no matter how strict the money managment is - YOU WONT WIN.

Some systems will seem like the holy grail - untill you run into a stream of numbers which causes it to lose. Thats why when one guy tests a system he reports back about the good results but another guy who is playing the same system comes back as says it lost - because one guy was lucky and the other one ran into the wrong stream of numbers.

So I found this site by googling about VB and AP and this place seems to be...well I dont know. Seems to be "right"; for lack of better words. Forester isnt throwing huge adds and scams in your face like MH and SH and the community seems to be on the right track - AP.

So whats the story here? Are we all in Australia? I am and how many Europeans are here? (both my parents are; their from Poland, so that kind of makes me one).

Furthermore, my casino experiance is limited. In Australia you have to be over 18 to gamble so yeah, I cant legally gamble. But hey thats LEGALLY LOL. Hasent stopped me so far. Ive been to Wrest Point (I live in Hobart) twice and on both occasions my method of play profited (I played trends back then - never botherd with "systems"). Ill be 18 in eight months (laugh it up everyone...). The main reason why I am into roulette was firstly just for fun and
the thoughts of desiging a way of play to profit using my background in maths. However here I am now after the dream of actually making some money with it and AP is the only way forward.

Actually ive kept a log on my Dublin Bet games and so far after 30 session I am up 10.5K with an average session time of 21 minutes and an average profit of 1k per hour. However, that method of play requires lots of thinking. Constant evaluation of the numbers and the bankroll and knowing how much to bet, where and when!

So I ve come to this site with the intentions of learning from the experts about roulette computers and to learn a bit about VB (does anyone have anything for me to read on VB?) so tonight I'll read through my copy of Geniune Winner system which ive "aquired". Who knows, I may even eventually buy a roulette computer (or design my own seeing as electronics and deisgn is my hobby and my future course of study in university).

Well thats enough from me, Cheers everyone.

Mark Palaszewski

[PJ]

@Mark Palaszewski

Are you any relation to 'Evan'..

Cheers
PJ

[Advantage.Player]

Lol; Not that I know of

[Fatgambler]

When i browsing Stefano's roulette forum and vlsroulette it seems to me they all think that they can beat roulette mathematically. Or using softwares at online casinos like roulette killer and sniper.
Sorry to say but on Stefano's forum they are a bunch of losers. They are just acting so brainwashed.
About Vls i don't know i have not browsed that forum allot but it seems to me they are slightly better.

On this forum it is just advantage play only, well there is a mathsystem section, but there is more scammers advertising section.

Well you have a choice; either you beat the wheel or the wheel is going to beat you.

[Advantage.Player]

...Well you have a choice; either you beat the wheel or the wheel is going to beat you...

Hmmm decisions, decisions...Tough choice LOL

Actually Ive just rememebrs this...im not sure if you guys heard this one but...On the European wheel there is a 9 number sector of the wheel with NO middle dozen numbers in it (its from around the zero and left 8 pockets plus 1 pocket to the right of zero). So if you can use VB to predict when the ball WONT land in that 9 number sector, it has a greater chance of landing in the middle dozen because there is a higher density of M.Dozen numbers on the rest of the wheel. So it could be possible to use VB and if you decide the ball will miss the 9 number sector. Put a bet down on the 2nd dozen. Then again you will have to deal with the fact that you may have times of losing because the M.Dozen decides to hit less than expected and all that probalility theory.

[forester]

It may be useful but it is 24 numbers, far too much.
Since advantage player is close to the other table end it is hard to play it.
I never played dozens. Splits or streets can cover nice sector with only few chips.

[Dr.Spock]

...Well you have a choice; either you beat the wheel or the wheel is going to beat you...

Hmmm decisions, decisions...Tough choice LOL

Actually Ive just rememebrs this...im not sure if you guys heard this one but...On the European wheel there is a 9 number sector of the wheel with NO middle dozen numbers in it (its from around the zero and left 8 pockets plus 1 pocket to the right of zero). So if you can use VB to predict when the ball WONT land in that 9 number sector, it has a greater chance of landing in the middle dozen because there is a higher density of M.Dozen numbers on the rest of the wheel. So it could be possible to use VB and if you decide the ball will miss the 9 number sector. Put a bet down on the 2nd dozen. Then again you will have to deal with the fact that you may have times of losing because the M.Dozen decides to hit less than expected and all that probalility theory.

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Lets take a closer look at this. 

On a single zero wheel there are 37 numbers
there is a 9 number stretch with no numbers from 13 to 24.

Playing the 2nd dozen numbers randomly for 37 spins straight betting $25 per spin, this is what the results should be. 

12 wins ( pays 2-1)---  50x12= $600
25 losses ---  25x25= -625
loss after 37 spins=  -25

The question is , would it be possible to alter the outcome, by using VB to know when the ball will not land on the 9 number stretch.  MAYBE.  If done, it would reduce the odds from 24to 12 all the way done to 15 to 12.

The best news of all is, you only have get just one extra win over that 37 roll cycle to show a profit

LETS USE THE SAME EXAMPLE SHOWN ABOVE , Playing the 2nd dozen numbers for 37 PLAYABLE spins betting $25 FOR EACH PLAYABLE spin,  EXCEPT WERE USING VB TO TRY AND GET JUST 1 EXTRA WIN OVER A 37 SPIN CYCLE.  HERE ARE THE RESULTS

13 WINS=  50 x 13= $650
24 LOSSES  =  25 x 25 = $-600
profit after 37 bets= +$50.00

$50 is not a lot of money, However if someone really knew what they were doing, that profit could be $10,000 after 37 playable spins.  HOW?  Because a lot of tables allow a $5,000 maximun play for the outside bets only.  Being more realistic, even at $100 per bet, would show a profit of $200.00 after 37 playable spins, by just sneaking that 1 extra win in.   

So the bottom line is that if anyone could get 12 wins just playing the 2nd dozen randomly over a 37 win stretch,  you would think that it would be possible to sneak in just 1 extra win over that 37 spin cycle.  THE CATCH IS THAT YOU WOULDN'T BE PLAYING FOR 37 STRAIGHT SPINS LIKE A RANDOM LAYER WOULD.  YOU WOULD ONLY PLAY THE 2ND DOZEN WHEN THE VB YOUR USING  SIGNALS BACK TO YOU THAT THE BALL WILL NOT LAND ON THAT 9 NUMBER STRETCH WITH NO MIDDLE DOZEN NUMBERS SHOWING. 

THE BEST NEWS OF ALL IS - - -YOUR VB SYTEM WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE PERFECT OR NOT EVEN GOOD, BUT JUST FAIR ENOUGH TO SNEAK IN JUST 1 EXTRA WIN OVER 37 PLAYABLE BETS. 

Personally, I have never tried this, but will do some experimenting with it the next time I am down the shore in the casino.


CHEERS         


 

 

[forester]

The problem is that dozen numbers are mixed to much,
It would be better to play splits or even corners as displayed.

[Yous]

MY STORY MUST BE THE BEST,
i went to the casino and played and won a bit of money, im a further maths student at that time and we were doing research on expected values and roulette, and i figured how u end up loosing ur money no matter how hard you try ( statistically ) then i looked around on the internet, watched breaking vegas, and went to genuine winners website, i was stupid enough to think that it might work and I BOUGHT THE SYSTEM FOR $2500USD!!! I GOT SCAMMED, THEN I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED, u know SH, is the best scammer, he is actually cleveer, he talks about how he would give u special charts about his so called "Custom variant" , he said he has a private only player forum ( that doesnt work ) and he is only available on thrsdays and he is the only 1 who runs the company. that was just shit, after that i talked to mark howe but i didnt go through with his deal, cause he didnt want to meet me in person, and now im here, and this is alot better, because every1 is open to everything here. so yeah. ill deffinetly buy this. =)

[upiwaly]

I started to play roulette by myself. With no help of any forum.
At first of course there were black and red. Then i started to calculate that I have practically 100% chance of winning if I play dozens. Of course at that time I learned what progression is.

It took me a while to realize, that mathematically you cannot beat roulette.

So i started to search for methods, that could beat roulette. Of course I found genuine winner.com
Because I do not believe everything at first, I started to search for forums, that could describe genuine winner. In that search i came across VLS.

There were few good things on that forum. Regarding VB and phisically beating roulette.

The best thing on VLS was a link to this site

[Rollo]

After having seen a TV documentary about that first roulette computer ever made, in the 1960s, I googled casually about the topic. I think I used the "forum" word too and that helped. I think that this "industry" is growing its presence on the net, and that myrulet might have become a bit harder to find than it was a few years ago.

[forester]

GEEE, It is really hard to believe that someone still might buy GW from Stefano.
I hope you did not buy it recently.

Do you know how I know that he is not selling ay more. Because less and less people are contacting me and saying how they were scammed.

“u know SH, is the best scammer, he is actually cleveer, he talks about how he would give u special charts about his so called "Custom variant" , he said he has a private only player forum ( that doesnt work ) and he is only available on thrsdays and he is the only 1 who runs the company.”

I exactly know what you mean. Stefano is the sweetest talker, he is one of rare people what can look you in the eyes lie in your face and not blinking.

He sent me many emails, when i read then I almost believe him, simply because my mind can not process information that someone can be so much dishonest. Only what stops me to believe him is knowledge that I already have.

Few times he even tried to bribe me as a pedophile would do, giving lolies to kid to take him from park.

If I remove my material about him he will he will show me and probably give it for free his camera roulette computer. Especially if I give him FF's algorithms so we join forces against common enemy.

He told me story how he invested millions in to that project developing especial microprocessor since none of market were powerful for that (poor Intel). His camera will pick up reflection of roulette wheel on any shiny object from casino ceiling and predict using just that.

At one stage he even tried to play on card that both of us are migrants in Australia and that we should stick together since we are disadvantaged here. I do not speak fluent English but I never find myself disadvantaged in this country. He speaks fluent English so I do not understand why he would feel different way.

Recently I made complaint about his emails and it stopped. Stefano is scared of that because he was already imprisoned for 3 months because of inappropriate emails. and scam.

Lat he did was that he sends me emails pretending to be someone else.
Asking me about his GW system and link that Bago made about his system. When I answered he went to hotmail and complained that I am spreading his system which is his copyright.

Obviously he has nothing smarter do.
Stefano believed that his scam can go well forever, so he bought house and went deep in to mortgage. Now he has trouble paying it and obviously he believes it is my fault.

Yous,
Some people who are long enough here avoiding writing post with word Stefano, just to save my time because they know everything what has happened in the past. I appreciate your feedback on his genuine winner system, believing it will help someone to not get scammed. But let's look in to future and automated wheels.

I am not sure am I trying to convince you or myself to stop writing about scam, since when I start I can't stop.
 

[jaybird21]

well my store is i started using a blackjack computer that a
 a friend of mine built for me. well at the casino i took a break and went to the roulette wheel. I played and lost! so i started thinking there has got to be a way using a computer to beat roulette. so when i got home i hit the net.I researched all the devices and came to the decision that foster made the most sense. not a bull shitter like the rest of them.so hear i am thank god!