Stefano Hourmouzis's latest scam

[Dr.Spock]

Hourmouzis calls himself an expert on blackjack now... 

below is one of his brand spanking new scam sites.

who wants to rip ole Stef a new one on this latest scam?     

Any takers?    

http://www.blackjackcomputers.com/faq.htm

[forester]

It would surprise me if one day he sells his "asssss" with genuine customer reviews, similar to this one

(Testimonial 5 - David from Australia (2m 5s):

http://www.genuinewinner.com/Testimonial5DGAustralia.mp3 )

as he recently sent in bulk to people's emails.


 

[Fatgambler]

MIT BJ team succesfully had an advantage over house, no computer needed.
But i always wonder why he type "WE" when he has "about me" would it not be "about us"?

[Dr.Spock]

Fatgambler,

YOU WROTE  "But i always wonder why he type "WE" when he has "about me" would it not be "about us"?
_____________________________ _____________________________ ___________________________

HUH?     

Could you please elaborate?


THANK YOU     

[Fatgambler]

Sure...

Look at the index page http://www.blackjackcomputers.com/index.html

We have developed a discrete blackjack cheating device that can give you up to a 10% edge over the casino playing blackjack

Ok he uses "WE" and look at the top page it says "About me"
Got it?

Another funny thing is let say that he was so successful with his roulette computer whu should he develop a blackjack computer? Whats next fool a machine?

[Fatgambler]

Looking forward to se stefanos video on with computer. Maybe a rigged shoe.

[Dr.Spock]

Card counting and shuffle tracking isn't all that difficult.  it's a proccess that was done visually over the years for all the big blackjack winners.  Those who won big had a bank roll in the hunderds of thousands of dollars which is needed since the maximim advantage is only 1%.  It takes about 2 hours to play 100 hands for a regular player.  However for a card counter, they would only end up playing about 5% of those 100 hands - - which equals only 5 hands over a 2 hour period.

that means it would take a card counter approximately 40 hours just to play 100 hands where they have an average of a 1% advantage.  So if they were playing $25 a hand, than their total winnings would be only be $25 for 40 hours of time wasted.  A KID WORKING IN BURGER MAKING MINIMUM WAGE OF 7.50 AN HOUR WOULD MAKE 12 TIMES AS MUCH MONEY WORKING THE SAME 40 HOURS.   


By the way, If stefano places his crap on video there is atleast 10 good ways he can rig the video. One way is to pre -set the 8 decks cards so the dealers busts over and over.  Even if he shuffled the cards, he would still be able to pause the video and preset the cards, than resume the video - - without anyone watching the video ever noticing with the naked eye that the video was actually paused, than resumed.

For $7500.00, if people really are that stupid to wire $7500 to a total stranger over seas,  with no possible recourse of getting you money back, than maybe I ought to start having some of these idiots wire me some of that money.  Any legitimate person would accept credit cards because if later the buyer found out they were scammed, they would be able to get a 100% refund through their credit card carrier - -  and stefano knows this - -- WHICH IS THE REASON HE DOES NOT ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS.

BUT FORESTER DOES ACCEPT CREDIT CARDS BECAUSE HE DOESN'T SHIP OUT JUNK BACK TO PAYING CUSTOMERS LIKE STEFANO DOES ALL THE TIME.

EBAY WARNS IT'S CUSTOMERS THE SAME THING ALL THE TIME- - DO NOT WIRE ANY MONEY TO ANY SELLER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.  BUT THESE KNUCLE HEAD EBAY BUYERS DO IT ALL THE TIME AND KEEP THESE SCAMMERS IN BUSINESS.   AND THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY STEFANO IS STILL IN BUSINESS - - SINCE HE'S ABLE TO KEEP FINDING JACK A_ _'S FRESH OFF THE IDIOT SHIP TO KEEP WIRING HIM MONEY.   


CHEERS!!!

[PJ]

@Fatgambler

Dr Spock is correct there is ONLY A 1% ADVANTAGE in Blackjack.. and it is only achievable to the rare few who have the skills to not only count cards but who can also evaluate the likely outcome of their hand (at that moment) against the dealer (at that moment) on each and every hand.. there are hundreds of combinations to evaluate.. counting is just the first step.. Stephano's 10% boast is utter bulls**t..  Also the best BJ player in this country and probably the world.. struggles to get ahead and this is why... 

Imagine a barrel contains 101 White balls and 99 Black balls.. someone mixes them all together.. you now have your card counting edge.. you are also now going to lift your bet significantly and gamble on pulling out a WHITE BALL.. No thanks not for me.. roulette offers me many many more WHITE BALLS..

Cheers
PJ

[Fatgambler]

@Fatgambler

Dr Spock is correct there is ONLY A 1% ADVANTAGE in Blackjack.. and it is only achievable to the rare few who have the skills to not only count cards but who can also evaluate the likely outcome of their hand (at that moment) against the dealer (at that moment) on each and every hand.. there are hundreds of combinations to evaluate.. counting is just the first step.. Stephano's 10% boast is utter bulls**t..  Also the best BJ player in this country and probably the world.. struggles to get ahead and this is why... 

Imagine a barrel contains 101 White balls and 99 Black balls.. someone mixes them all together.. you now have your card counting edge.. you are also now going to lift your bet significantly and gamble on pulling out a WHITE BALL.. No thanks not for me.. roulette offers me many many more WHITE BALLS..

Cheers
PJ

Ok i understand...

[Dr.Spock]

Who wants to be the very first one to wire Stefano Hourmouzis a $100,000 dollar donation?   

Who exactly happens to have an extra $100,000 laying around and care to donate every single last penny of it to Mr. Hourmouzis?     


http://www.hybridroulettecomputer.com/       

[Rollo]

This is a funny paragraph:

provides a verifiable certificate of proof of funds US$100,000. This is not so much a matter of trust, but more a measure to reduce the possibility of undue leaks of sensitive information. After all, if an individual knew the secrets but didn't have a direct interest in maintaining secrets, then sensitive information would be far more likely to leak. So this requirement weeds out people that are merely curious and do NOT need to know the secrets, from those that are serious purchasers that DO need to know every detail of what they're purchasing.

 
And how does he combine it with his statement that the technology is PATENT PENDING? That means that its careful documentation is publicly available at the patent office, as are all patents...

[forester]

His aim is not to sell it but just to look convincing to sell GW system or perhaps phone.

Did anybody read his hybrid explanation ?

You point camera to any brass on casinos ceiling that reflects wheel image, press one button and you win.

Obviously there are enough silly people, other way he wouldn't spend so much time on promotion.

[momentspass]

Who wants to be the very first one to wire Stefano Hourmouzis a $100,000 dollar donation?   

Who exactly happens to have an extra $100,000 laying around and care to donate every single last penny of it to Mr. Hourmouzis?     


http://www.hybridroulettecomputer.com/       

Your brother, surely?

One week's money. 

[Dr.Spock]

If you only had ANY IDEA just how tight my brother is with money. He actually sits down and monitors every single penny of his money and how it's being spent.

Which is probably what I need to be doing, but he has it down to a science accounting for every single penny 24 hours around the clock. Not only that, but he actually keeps records, documents and receipts of every last penny he spent over the last 20 years locked in a master safe. 

If the IRS ever want to try and audit him, than the IRS will be in for one big surprise.   


CHEERS     

[mikemcbain]

Dr Spock

If the IRS ever want to try and audit him, than the IRS will be in for one big surprise.

They will only be surprised if he has actually paid enough tax and in my audit even though they couldn't find anything obvious they blatantly claimed that I should pay enough to cover their audit costs or they would go through every single receipt until they found more than that!   

Mike

[Fatgambler]

One thing hit me, yesterday. Why is Stefano making great efforts to sell his roulette systems, when there are financial crises? Is he just dumb or does he believe that people are frustrated to get money, so they buy his system?

I personally believe in the first one.

[forester]

As far as I can remember he is doing it for long time. Now maybe more because, he can't sell any more. Days when he could take $5,000 -$12,000 for nothing are gone.
Of course he is blaming me for that but not his product.
Put it this way, if he sold 200 phones as he claimed and if it is so easy he wouldn't need to advertise any more and write additional 50 web pages. 200 customers would bring him additional 1000 in no time.

Stefano is trying to improve his product by copying principles of how IQE6 works, but he is far behind. Only few months ago he was writing how continuous clocking is bad. Stefano still doesn't understand principles behind it, therefore he has long way to go. Even if he develops algorithms mobile phone hardware and Java isn't appropriate for timing applications and will never be fast and accurate in timing as the FF.

You know how the FF has accuracy 1,2,3,4 his computer has to work on 1 to be able to predict in time as the FF at setting 2, because he loses more then one sec. to initiate audio player. The difference in between accuracy of prediction when the ball is 1 sec per rotation or 1.2s could be 30%. So why to bother with mobile phones, except if objective is to make money from sales but not to use it to win.

By the way can you email me your address, tomorrow I will go to post office.

[forester]

I do not know if anybody remembers when Mark Howe was claiming that he is selling devices to protect casinos from his computer.

Now and Stefano starts doing the same.
He wants to sell software to casinos to be protected from his GW system.

Check this

http://www.roulettesystemanalysis.com/

All he does is really to look more convincing to silly potential buyer.

[Bago]

He should use his software against his own 15 years old John Huxley Wheel, it would show a clear edge betting around 13 pockets anti-clockwise the last outcome as a dealer signature.

Also if he supplies casino materials, how come he kept the same easily beatable old wheel from 2004 to 2008?.
He claims it is a common wheel used in today casinos, but he fails to mention that it is beatable only by charting where the ball last landed to where the ball lands next. (dealer signature).

Try to do that in your Casino and you will cry. But on Stefano's wheel, you get a large peak and this is very easy to have an edge.

[forester]

I wouldn't be sure that his results are from DS.



Red graph is prediction-hits to rotor from his 100 spins.

You can see it is random result.
I believe he simply repeated spins until he get some good hits.
If you look more in to the spins you will also notice that he has more hits at the start.


OO, I took more time to read about his software.
He actually claims that his imaginary software is better then any casinos but still can't protect casino from his GW system. He is really an idiot.

Maybe I should write to casino hay guys I have better RNG software let me install it to your machines.

Stefano will always be a scammer. That is what he does.

You re long enough around to remember argument with him about single spin test.
Check this
http://www.roulettecomputers.com/competitors.html

I argue because his computer couldn't pass the test, now he writes it as a test how to test the computer.

Try predicting the same spin repeatedly on DVD, but use a different diamond as a reference point each time. Make sure the DVD player does not skip - do NOT use DVD players from your PC as they are notorious for skipping.

“do not use DVD players from your PC” 

I bet here he refers to you, since you couldn't make his computer pass the test and he accused you that you've must be using faulty DVD player.

Also i found somewhere he writes how to identify if system seller is a scammer.
Then as one indicator he says that such seller would tell you his system can predict outside bets. Only few months ago he was convincing people that his computer can do it.

Yes, he writes all the time about modern new roulette wheels and makes demos all the time on a single wheel. It is easy to make demo on any wheel that would look convincing. But he does it on one simply because he has only one wheel, it wouldn't hurt to show demo on all kind of different wheels as he claims to have.

[Bago]

Sorry but i disagree with you. Indeed the signature is not clear at this stage (the end of the video), because there are only 150 spins, this is not enough, unless he would have used the ball in his first video demonstration i still have, a big ball which made no more than 6 revolutions.

I've charted the predictions he called comparing to where the ball landed last, and you can see that he predicts largely around -11 pockets. See the peak: It is certainly not coincidental.



This is only charting with the last outcome. Now he may have adjusted his "jump count" with the release point, which is sometimes the last outcome but sometimes 8-10 pockets from it, that would explain the jump counts used are also +16 +15...


Now concerning his computer and his bullshit pc dvd player skipping argument:

1) You have shown that you can get accurate predictions with your FF on Gordon's wheel and it was done on a video played with a pc dvd player.

2) No matter if the pc dvd player was skipping, this is the accuracy of the clicks that are importants.
Indeed, if my pc dvd player was skipping, i would have not been accurate, and unfortunately for Stefano, they are VERY accurate (impossible to repeat in a Casino environment).
Everyone can measure my wheel clicks ans ball clicks in this video, you can refer to Stefano's voice or if you want to be more precise, calculate the time between my clicks which are shown on the phone screen.

And finally, if the pc dvd player was skipping i would not get close predictions from different sectors.
I would have get like: 0, 19, 7 , 25 etc...
In my video i get predictions: 24,16,33,25,34

This shows clearly that it is a calculation error with the algorythms, certainly not INACCURATE clicks since i get CLOSE PREDICTIONS FROM DIFFERENT SECTORS.

And the funniest is Stefano gets the same problem in one of his video DONE ON A DVD PLAYER FROM A HOME CINEMA (So no excuse of skipping). He gets predictions close to Numbero Zero, and suddenly he got Number 23 as a prediction.
Yes 17 pockets from the predicted sector, whereas he is accurate in his clicks, and confortably at home.
What a coincidence.

Stefano will never acknowledge his algorythms suck. If it was not the case, he would have never asked you to meet you and reveal both your algorythms because Stefano wrote in the email that your algorythms deals better with human errors in timing than his.

And now he claims that your computer is cheap and your algorythms can be developped in 10 minutes by an amateur.

After all those contradictory claims, he would like us to be friendly and doesn't understand why we call him a scammer.

LoL

[Myrulet-admin]

Correct me if I am wrong.

Your graph is prediction where the ball stops.

Graph that I showed is prediction where the ball hits rotor.

(where the ball hits rotor) is first number which the ball hits on the rotor.

Before then we get final result we must have high pick in distance from prediction to “where the ball hits rotor”. Other way results are coincidence.
Computer cannot predict how ball will bounce.
But many spins on DVD he gets even spinners that jumping by 2 rotations, stopping on predicted number. FIRST OBJECTIVE OF COMPUTER IS TO PREDICT WHERE THE BALL WILL HIT ROTOR.

Did you look same DVD as me?
For spins I used his DVD that he supplies with computer. And the graph is his computer prediction vs number where the ball hits rotor.
It is one where he says that he will block everyone's computer if he finds out that it has been used in casino.

Regarding his prediction to zero and then to 23.

If you look HIS SINGLE SPIN video carefully you can notice that he is start using continuous clocking with not fixed amount of clicks. That isn't his way and if you remember he criticized my approach.

Now he is doing it because he is trying to predict it as tilted wheel.

To get same result when clocking on different diamond he gradually shifts clocking position. That way he is giving wrong data of the ball to match clocking result on previous diamond. With tilted wheel prediction he can have even 200ms (or any preset) tolerance for the ball to predict same number, and the difference in numbers he gets as result is only because of inaccuracy of rotor clocking.
To get accurate prediction and to have error correction on leveled wheel he would need better then 10 ms accuracy  which is simply impossible to get on mobile phone.
Stefano probably repeated recordings many times until he got it right.
He still got it once wrongly predicted (number 23) because he got prediction in wrong rotation.
That is what I think, but it is very easy to make video any way you want.

About DVD skipping.
If it is the case then system shouldn't have prediction. It would detect inaccurate data.
With that he only putting himself down discovering that his computer can't do even that.
If you remember video that he made with FFZ, look carefully and you will see that 21 spin have ~1:15  hit rate, remaining 10 was not predicted because he screwed clocking.
Same would happen if you try to do it on DVD that doesn't play right.
Computer must know if clocked data is correct or not, is it within limits, if it is it should correct it, or not predict, other way computer doesn't have any error correction. But Stefano is full of rubbish and he will blame everybody except himself.
 

[Bago]

Hi,

No, my graph is about how Stefano predicts his next sector in regards of where the ball last landed.
For example, if the last winning number was Zero, then according to my graph, he would likely predicts around number 31. So it is clear he is using dealer signature, since he is using around the same pocket distance from where the ball last landed, which is not far from where he releases the ball.


You are right, if the pc dvd player was skipping, then it should not predict since it would not match AT ALL the ball samples entered to set up the computer.
But Stefano's computer does it because it does not have any correction for ball clocking.
On my home cinema, to verify this fact when i was repeating the same single spin, i intentionnaly clocked later or sooner in regards of my reference diamond (i.e: 12 o'clock). Results was i received a prediction which was of course rubbish.

It was your responsability to know if you clicked well or not to know if the computer was predicting ok.

Regards.

[forester]

Ok ,
Did you say spins are very short?
I still do not believe that DS would work on more then 12 sec to the end on leveled wheel. Who knows what he is doing?
All I know is that his computer can not predict by calculating rotor and ball speed, and that he talks all the time rubbish.
Anyway why he would bother about single spin test if few months earlier he calls it invalid and did not understand it at all. Now he constantly tries to prove, that his computer can do it. Maybe it can but I know that none of his computers which he sold past 3 years could do it, or all people have had skipping DVD players.
His previously shown videos did have final results but never proper hits to rotor.

You are right, if the pc dvd player was skipping, then it should not predict since it would not match AT ALL the ball samples entered to set up the computer.

Well, Stefano's computer needs samples to be entered in steps of full rotations. FF learns it automatically and defines much better curve then manually entered samples.

FF lets player make about 30-40 ms around formatted curve or it gives error 3.
If few rotations are clocked system can correct it.

[Bago]

Hi Forester,

Maybe i will post more analysis graph when i've the time, but for now you can watch his 1 hour video and see for yourself that each spin the ball revolutions are low, around 10-12 revolutions, sometimes less.
The less ball revolutions, the more likely the DS will define.
Also an important aspect is the ball scatter of course, which is tight on this wheel. The ball landing is close to the ball striking, i will make the graph soon and you will see this is not Casino conditions, nor his ball revolutions, or very rare (maybe encountered 3 times with new employed dealers).

Tilted wheels are of course a plus when you are tracking dealer signature, but if you have both aspects mentionned here (low ball revolutions and tight ball scatter) you will find a definition.

This is not for nothing that Stefano predicts around minus 11 pockets from where the ball last landed, this is because a peak appears in this area when you are sampling a lot of spins.

Regards.