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Offline Dr.Spock

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #50 on: February 21, 2008, 01:55:43 PM »
My master plan was to eventually have my brother build a roulette computer... which would never be put up for sale under any circumstances - - - but only for my own personal use.   He's to tied up right now to work on such a project --- but he does currently have the time give me his professional input to anything pertaining to java development.

He'll cut back on his hours during the summer to a regular 40 hour work week and that's when I plan on having him start building the best roulette computer ever on the face of the earth known to mankind.     8)



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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #51 on: February 21, 2008, 03:55:02 PM »
Wow... can he walk on water too?   No, seriously you are obviously very proud of your brother's skills and abilities but may I suggest the following before you impose upon the guru's time.. download Avidemux and run the various videos you have of roulette spins.. then at the precise moment the ball impacts with whatever number on the wheel/rotor then note carefully where the ball finally comes to rest after the effects of the scatter.   You see.. the 'impact point' is the only point the most sophisticated device will be able to identify the rest is 'in the lap of the gods'.   The test I have suggested you perform will yield some very interesting (and positive) results however we will never be able to achieve such a standard of excellence in real play with a hand held device and manual clocking..and that doesn't matter whether you use your toe, tongue, finger or d**k to push the button.. but we can achieve a proportion of what that test will give.. our results in real play can never be as  accurate as the results achieved by stopping the video and identifying precisely that 'impact point'.   It doesn't matter what device or how brilliant a programmer or electronic engineer you are the results achieved can never exceed the results obtained by sitting at your desk and comfortably stopping the video to identify the 'impact point'..  so get real.. get the FF.. it is all that can be done in reality to identify that 'impact point' a reasonable number of times during play..

Does anybody disagree?
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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #52 on: February 21, 2008, 04:26:07 PM »
I agree with you pj, thats exactly what I intend to do.  Everything else I am doing is more of a side project.  I feel that in another 6 months that my VB skills will be up to par - -  and combining my brother's java skills with my VB skills we would make a great team for creating a device to beat the wheel.  In the meantime, I plan on starting a collection of the best and brightest devices known today for beating the wheel.   My first stop will be the FF and learning how to master that.

My brother could take a device like FF, and within 1 weeks time let Forester know exactly what are the best steps necessary to turn  into a more powerful unit - - - and also the best way to add audio without compromising it's accuracy.





 

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #53 on: February 21, 2008, 05:16:35 PM »
@Mike
re your point #1... we can, but there will be errors..
re your point #2..  I absolutely agree..
re your point #3..  there is no doubt that the big teflon ball is the best for us.. (you need big balls for this game)
re your point #4..  I am lost on this one.. but I can envisage some effect by those conditions.. but how in the hell you can figure it.. I don't know
re your point #5..  the search for the holy grail continues.. but I don't think Barnett will offer any solutions.

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #54 on: February 21, 2008, 06:11:22 PM »
@Mike

For me the jury is still out on that one.. so I'll wait for Spock's bro to write the code for the algorithm.. and I do hope he doesn't forget to factor in the draft from the various air conditioning ducts.. especially at Launceston.

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #55 on: February 21, 2008, 09:10:46 PM »
COncerning air pressure:

According to mechanics, air pressure affects the air drag. Air drag is of course the dominating force on the ball early when it travels at high speed. If ball speed is measured early on, then it can be a real factor. And air pressure CAN shift substantially, for example  with the opening or closing of a window, so I would not rule out that variations in air pressure alone could make the ball hit another diamond. It would be very nice if someone with a real roulette wheel could tests this issue! Make tests on two extremes on the barometer.

I guess that a way to deal with this issue practically, is to simply choose a roulette wheel where air pressure is fairly constant. Maybe one should bring an air pressure measurement device to the casino, which logs measurements over time (or read it manually now and then) to see. I don't know anything about such gadgets and I'm not sure how weather changes compare to indoor climate control equipment in terms of air pressure. But constant conditions can never be bad.

So:

1) In laboratory settings, figure out if air pressure matters noticably. And if it does:

2) Strive to play in similar air pressure to increase predictability.

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #56 on: February 22, 2008, 01:13:04 AM »
Bad news, I just have hared that some guys were caught with laptop and laser device, I think it was in Sweden. I do not know did they play leveled or tilted wheel but they did make some progress. So what could be excuse for using such equipment in casino?



During my tests I tested only ball clocking and how the FF handles that.
In usual 8 out of 10 spins it was within one pocket.

I am still not sure if java is capable of doing the job, but I will find it soon.
I really would like to do it that way because it may open additional options without much effort, display settings and easier Bluetooth control.

Roulette prediction needs solutions more then knowledge.

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #57 on: February 22, 2008, 03:59:54 AM »
What is your source? Any news link?

A laptop and a laser? Why not a flashlight and an elephant?
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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #58 on: February 22, 2008, 04:10:29 AM »
The labtop is in another room and the laser is at the wheel.

Whats your source forester ?

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #59 on: February 22, 2008, 07:43:15 AM »
a phone call  ;)

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #60 on: February 22, 2008, 10:58:23 AM »
Well, they knew upfront that there is no room for sloppy work and carelessness in this business.  Getting caught is the price you pay for not having some kind of security measure in effect. 

To bad they didn't have the FF device - -- since it's almost impossible to even prove what exactly is it used for- - - especially with a chip that can be locked - - - and atleast 10 good reasons why you need it for your health.  ;) 

 

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #61 on: February 22, 2008, 03:23:08 PM »
1994 in Singapore I tried first time electronics acupuncture.
Soon after that I bought one.
Then I come to idea if I add timer I can use it in casino.
My first device was actually modified electronics acupuncture unit.
I even used original pads.
I considered it safest.

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Re: Roulette computer inside mobile phone
« Reply #62 on: October 08, 2011, 01:17:28 AM »

Hello,

 I am Systems Programmer.
 I am doing some tests on mobile phones with Android.
 I think you can do something interesting...
 What is your experience in the topic?
 thanks

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