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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #25 on: August 19, 2007, 06:45:09 PM »
Geez, guys so many posts and infos here that I lost a bit and this reading takes me too much time.

ABCDE- how long you have Mark's new computer?? Maybe you did test wrong!


Forester- it is unbelievable that you will arrange meeting with Ritz team. It is my BIG, BIG wish for 2 years  to meet one of them too. Is there any chance that I could join this meeting????????????  It is ONLY 100 to 200 kilometers for me to visit any city in Croatia!  Please,  be so kind and I will be thankful you to the end of my life.

Thanks
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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2007, 07:22:48 PM »
Frenki I do not know you, this is different story even for this first he said I never herd about that person and he did not have interest to meet him.  But next time we talked he said ok give to XXXX his email. XXXX is another guy who firstly made contact with me and he speaks good English. Last I know is that they talked and found that they want to do something together so they decided to meet somewhere at Adriatic coast in Croatia. 

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2007, 07:55:21 PM »
It is not question did he test it properly or not if Mark Howe himself says that phone is bad. Apparently software has problem.

Then why he accusing me that I am ABC and that I write false reviews only god knows.
 I can only guess why.


Further more I know that you are friend with Mark.
So can you tell us which software do you have loaded to your phone?
Let me guess, Is it maybe another one with same problem.
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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #28 on: August 19, 2007, 08:23:44 PM »
"MARK'S HOWE PREDICTION SYSTEM IS THE BEST, FORESTER SHOULD WASH HIS FOOTS"

Hello all,
It's nice sunny Sunday here, so first some running, swimming pool, lunch with friends. Later on today I'll try to explain:
-that I'm not Forester. ( will be hard )
-why I chose FF as a weapon  in my private war against casinos.
-why I think that it is better.
-that I'm still open for Mark's next product.

have a nice day,
abc

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #29 on: August 20, 2007, 03:55:14 AM »
ABC,
I received 10 emails from Mark.
It would be nice if he can provide so much support as much of obese.
In between he told me that he sent you an email to send him phone back for latest software.
I told him it is not right because it is his mistake he even create you losses, therefore he should simply send you new phone. It is only $150 phone and you already paid high price.
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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2007, 10:34:28 AM »
Hello Forester

go to the IP Log now, check the IP.

I am a little Net Savvy, so you have server lag for some perculiar reason which is delaying IP confirmation maybe because someone is unauthorised at your site.

I have taken a screen shot and will invite the others to come here and do the same.

When I first logged in, my IP was 85. something, then, whislt I was on, 2 minutes later it changed to my proper IP, yet still claimed I was in the US, very bizzare.

My IP was in norway, but my Location was in the US.

Would you like me to take a video of this, it would be no problem and I can show you again if it happens?

David Sawyer





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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2007, 10:37:49 AM »
Forester

Please Check!

Check it is showing Norwegian IP on my post, yet how come I have the screen shot from your site showing that I am in the US?

Please explain?

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2007, 10:43:12 AM »
What shall I do?
Why someone need from me explanation ?
What is all about?

I just shared my opinion on the forum !

Mark,
I appreciate your proposition which I get by mail.
I will send you back phone and will wait for your move.
Both solutions; money refound or proper working prediction system are welcome.
This is up to you.

I'm filing free to post here my opinion about your new software, even if I'm wrong!
I will inform you earlier, but only inform. I do not need your permission to share my opinion with others.

I do not need also Forester permition to inform here that  FF masturbation device which he sold me, did not give me enough pleasure.
Who cares that if I do it in casino it predict in the mid-time, when I can not come.
I wonder how others can.

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ABC


 

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #33 on: August 20, 2007, 11:58:24 AM »
Yes, Mark I was here and I've seen you changed IP 3 times.
With one you were observing board with the other one you made post and then you changed it to third one.
Actually that one is new in the system.

Do not worry about forum software; it doesn't have bugs as your phone.
You do not have to be logged in forum still records who you are or what are you doing and for how long.

I know that this upsets you because you spent some money and time to create other web pages with different names to discredit me and to sell more of your phones.

This matter should not be discussed any more. I received 10 sick threatening emails from you. It is not big secret that you are Norwegian as well. It is not only me who knows it but most people at GG. As you can see even forum software knows.

We have right to discuss your computer it is your problem if product doesn't perform well. At least we did not make lies as you did about IQE6 at your site and totally wrong description.

This is your last warning. Any more loggings with different names except Mark Howe will not be tolerated and I will ban you forever. If you want to defend your phone then stand as a man and do it properly. Even that is under condition that you stop all scamming, because I prefer to have constructive discussion with normal people.
Condition includes changing your description of FF. At least now you know that ABC is genuine that he has it and FF works exactly as described (you have 2 days to do it). Also you know that if your phone is working that he would like to use it. So go and do something with that information, don't defend something that is lost and cannot be defended.

You can cry and write whatever you want but I have no intention to play your game.
If you have time to waste I do not have and I do not want to lose it with stupid discussions. I lost 4 pages writing of new chip description for members because of your stupid posts.

Perhaps before any posts you should read.

"This Forum is dedicated to discussion about roulette systems, computers or visual prediction. If participating in this forum you morally obligate yourself to speak truth and to share your knowledge. Please don't email me questions regarding any of system sellers."

So please respect it for benefits of all members and visitors of this forum.
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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #34 on: August 20, 2007, 12:46:33 PM »


IP is in Norway, Location is the UK, me (glossboy) and sawyer are logged in at the same time. How is this possible?
the norwegian ip is a fake ip that someone is using to hack your site, i checked it and it is fake. check yourself.

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #35 on: August 20, 2007, 01:38:37 PM »
All 5 users are banned (sawyer, glossboy, Norwegian, and 2 Mark Howes); they all are Mark Howe, with different email from gmail which of course is free. He uses it to spread scam and confusion on the other forums as well.

From now on anybody who is not using providers email to register, talking rubbish to protect this scammer will be banned.

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #36 on: August 20, 2007, 08:51:44 PM »
Right after I read last posts and my mails I was frighten.
I opened CNN & checked if there is a war between  UK & Australia.
UFFF...  still peace, they even tolerate each others ambassadors.

PEOPLE RELAX PLEASE!!!

I'm here to discuss about systems, about making good prediction, about wheels, how to find good one for us, and finally how to earn money because it is still hard even having good prediction system. How to define risk during spin, and base on above chose proper bet hight. How to menage bankroll to etc.

Please let's try to start from the beginning.

I have both systems FF & MH.

1. First reaction.
MH is clear, nice and easy to use.
FF needs practice and knowledge. Do not even try to play when you do not know perfectly where are all numbers.

With MH calibration is easy, and it predicts every spin.(nearly, MH call "out of range" when clicking is totally bad)
With FF I had my first calibration after 10 or 15 spins. My first prediction was after 30 minutes of clicking! It frighten me and give me only pain, I did not even notice predicted number!
What does it mean?
MH takes every data as calibration.
FF takes only timings which are very close to default, which "makes sense" for the system.
Same during play; MH tolerate "strange" ball timings.
Strange means that I click earlier then later then again earlier during following ball revolutions.
FF needs exact on time  ball timings. Before I learned clicking FF shows me permanently 3th finger instead of prediction.

Summary what does it mean?
Only that FF is "stupid proof" and MH is not.
This is enough to know it, (Manual for MH informs that good clicking is most important).
Anyway I prefer FF. If I have prediction signal I can base on this. Instead of analyzing my timings I can focus on wheel speed ( it helps me to define-predict offset ) and I have time to decide width of sector and bets level.

Mark & Forester,
Please take into your consideration my idea.
Additional device for wheels data storage, wheels control, calibration, fast system tuning, changing accuracy in FF, profitable play.

For MH will be useful only for wheels data storage and exact calibration.
For FF I can see even more advantages.

I would like to have PDA handheld computer with smart software and possibility to connect to MH and FF.

First ball timings should be made on PDA instead of playing device.
Than after several measurements application should made graph, and compare with former data from the same wheel if any. Based on proper wheel graph PDA should generate signals for playing device for calibration. In FF should be also possibility of loading former tuned data if match to new wheel timings.

What do you think?

Next time more about MH & FF
best,
ABC
 

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #37 on: August 20, 2007, 11:15:59 PM »
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« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2007, 10:07:58 AM »
Ok, now I understand you.

This is the most important part

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What confuses me more is when you say that you must observe rotor speed. Why is that? System calculates rotor.

I noticed that rotor speed affects offset.
When preparing to play I note distance from predicted number to actual result and also rotor speed (let say in 3-4 steps).
Then when I separate only spins with lowest rotor speed mostly all results are in narrow sector. One bet to cover 5 numbers is usually enough.
For highest wheel speed I play much wider sector (15 numbers).
I'm trying also to recognize rotation of the ball by noise. Some dealers can spin totally silent, others makes a lot of noise on the same wheel, and same ball. This is for sure due to forward or backward rotation.
I'm trying to find correlation with offset.

As I said there is no easy solution for roulette especially not on leveled wheel.
There is no computer that can know all possible parameters on every kind of wheel, at any kind of rotor at any kind of pocket dividersetc.

FF will calculate rotor speed accurately and predict according to it.
It will also allow small adjustment to compensate for increase in scatter on faster rotor but that is only and only if rotor speeds doesn't not change drastically.
For example rotor speed changes from 6 sec to 4 sec per rotation; it shouldn't be problem for FF. However if rotor changes to 3 sec or under 3 sec. there are so many additional factors which may effect ball.

So fast rotor creates air turbulence, which can be very different and depends on shape of pocket dividers and ball size and weight. Scatter may change. Balance in between results when ball stops instantly and when ball rolls across rotor changes.
What you were doing is exactly what I do when I play.
Such rapid changes should be avoided, but gambling is gambling, sometimes when we get good spot we like to continue playing. And that is why we must observe all the time what is going on the wheel. That is why we need system that doesn't require much from us to operate such as entering numbs, and that is why we need system so faxable that clocking can be done at any position.

Different dealer shouldn't matter if spin is long enough the ball stabilizes and if there is not significant rotor speed change. If spins are to short there may be ball back spinning which could cause greater variations in final results.  FF can predict only according detected ball speed it will do it with greatest accuracy, but once prediction is done if for some reasons ball changes there is nothing that anybody can do. All this combined with fact that ball with same speed doesn't have to end up at same place makes everything harder. But it is as it is and we can only deal with that on best possible way.

Homework.
If you start IQE6 when you get first spin predicted notice position of ball when system predicts (position not number) then notice position when ball hits rotor.
The difference in between those 2 points will be exact difference in between your predicted number and number when the ball hits rotor when you do prediction.
It would be easy for me to add it so system can have offset zero.
But it would be wrong, we would still have ball bouncing so we have to adjust again, even that can be done. But mot important is that first spin may be spin out of order, therefore we still could be wrong. (It would be ok if all spins where for example ball of 1 sec per rotation does same amount of traveling, but it doesn't) That is why I decided not to do it. System will have plain prediction but player after observing few spins can define offset better then any computer.
 
Everything is detectable including FF if you know what to look for. FF has advantage because it is out of anything expected. Custom built device is less expected then standard ways of communication.

For example, at one stage I experiment with MP3 player with built in radio.
Receives signal from ff, so player only have in his pocket MP3 with one broken earphone where instead of zap earphone membrane produces vibration. Since I have elephants skin I could not feel it well. But solution as that would be very safe and very hard to detect. Miniature electro motors as used in mobile phones for vibration are to slow, micro solenoid would be better but they use more power. FF is good with power batteries can last for months. That is why it can work even if I want to use the smallest battery size.

14 levels zap selection is good.
When you power the system it starts with smallest then every 0.5 sec increases it until you select strength that you like. That is only if you have switch pressed when you powering the system, if not it will straight start with default.
Additionally I took more care for quality of pulse, it is used higher frequency so zap is smoother.
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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2007, 11:30:00 AM »
Forester

New chip sounds good.

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14 levels zap selection is good.
When you power the system it starts with smallest then every 0.5 sec increases it until you select strength that you like. That is only if you have switch pressed when you powering the system, if not it will straight start with default.
Additionally I took more care for quality of pulse, it is used higher frequency so zap is smoother.

Does this mean when I put the new chip into my FF I get these new benefits or do I require a new box and board?

Mike.

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2007, 12:26:42 PM »
Same box, chip is different (same size) but all inputs and outputs are configured to suit 100% old chip.
 3 components from board are not needed any more, but you do not have to remove them. Fewer components are better for future size reduction.

Zap adjustment I do not need, I did it only for comfort of the others.
That is why I made it optional at start so I do not have to do it every time.

It does not take much time but if you do much testing as I do it may be annoying.
Now I am thinking I could do it even better, so once selected it stays for every time until you want to change it. As it is you will have to do it every time you when you powering the box.

So next time I will do it, and I will think about what ABC recommended.

That is another advantage of FF. Easy upgrade; you do not have to send it back as if it is built in the phone. I do not know about Mark but Stefano charges for that $250. That is almost half price of FF.

For miniature ff  it will not be possible, but then who cares it will be so cheap because I will not spend my time building it. FF made in China  ;D

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2007, 02:33:18 PM »
Gee I hope we won't have to put up with rude little old chinese ladies pushing and shoving us at every wheel in the world, its bad enough here at my local wheel?  ;D ;D

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2007, 05:11:26 PM »
LoL, would you prefer Japanese.

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2007, 05:25:04 PM »
Slovakian!

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« Reply #45 on: August 21, 2007, 06:13:35 PM »
Man you are right,

Is that where you started you trip?

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« Reply #46 on: August 21, 2007, 11:01:44 PM »
Yes, Bratislavia...the beautiful.

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #47 on: August 22, 2007, 12:48:25 AM »


The only problem for both of us was that we come there with company :'( :'(.

Mike I am bit late with new chip.
First I lost 10 of them I can't find them.
I worked a lot on TILT 2 after conversion I did only basic test in IQE6 it looked ok.
Today I tried real prediction and have had only about 70 % of spins predicted. Maybe it sounds good but in usual i get close to 100%. I already found reason so it is fixed but I better do some more testing.

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Re: FF versus Mark Howe computer
« Reply #48 on: August 22, 2007, 10:10:33 AM »
Don't rush...it's better to have it error free than like a Mark Howe product! :) :)

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